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Helen
02:32:19
Really useful - thanks Brigit!
Jean Potter
02:32:30
thank you!
Jennifer Watermeyer
02:34:15
Thanks for this interesting and very topical talk! Might be useful to connect with colleagues at the University of Global Health Equity in Rwanda (e.g. Agnes Binagwaho, Paul Farmer, Eugene Richardson), who are tackling decolonisation in medicine in a radical way through teaching medical students how to ‘do’ advocacy and practice global health in their own communities.
Esther Murray she/her
02:35:10
Great talk. Brigit you are wise to talk about being slow and gentle! Thank you.
Patricia Neville
02:35:36
Really interesting talk Brigit- thank you
Brigit McWade (she/her)
02:35:37
Thanks Jennifer - that sounds amazing!
Paul Stronge
02:36:39
Fascinating presentation Brigit, opens up huge area - I also think there is a crossover/ parallel with the default way we introduce students to medical ethics - the four pillars etc. - very much within a colonial, Western-oriented tradition - just a thought.
Jeni Harden
02:36:42
@Jennifer Watermeyer - sounds fascinating. Is there a link or person to contact?
Brigit McWade (she/her)
02:37:19
Thanks Paul - totally agree!
Mariam Alwerdani
02:38:08
thanks Brigit for the interesting topic, I was thinking about the fact that majority of clinical guidelines are based on data from populations from Europe and America. So I think decolonizing biomedical research is a good point to start towards decolonizing medicine. Thanks again for the talk.
Jennifer Watermeyer
02:38:18
@Jeni Harden - here we go: https://ughe.org/meet-the-team/
Jeni Harden
02:38:27
Brigit - I will get in touch with you to discuss this more. We are starting a project to find ways to support staff in developing an inclusive curriculum
Jeni Harden
02:38:48
@Jennifer Watermeyer - thanks!
Brigit McWade (she/her)
02:39:20
Jeni - great! Would love to begin conversations with others outside of Lancaster re this
Brigit McWade (she/her)
02:40:08
Mariam - totally agree. One of the things I have discovered since trying to do this work is that the research just isn't there. So much to do!!
Esther Murray she/her
02:40:33
Brigit and Jeni, count me in! I am on some working groups but not with social scientists... Some peer support would be amazing.
Brigit McWade (she/her)
02:43:01
Esther: ace!
Jeni Harden
02:44:31
Sounds good - I can send a message round BeSST to see who is interested
Patricia Neville
02:50:55
Can you add me to the mailing list?
Arwa - Sudan - Arwa Babiker
02:51:13
me too! arwababiker@outlook.com
Jean Potter
02:51:22
and me please jean.potter1@nhs.net thank you
Patricia Hudelson
02:51:54
Excellent program, thanks Costas!
Jean Potter
02:52:14
thank you
Arwa - Sudan - Arwa Babiker
02:53:36
great program Costas!
Arwa - Sudan - Arwa Babiker
02:53:54
yes please!
Jean Potter
02:54:29
sharing the osce would be amazing
Fiona Simmons-Jones
02:54:41
I think looking at the Public Health OSCE equivalent might be helpful when looking at how we assess social sciences etc. in medical education, we get assessed a lot on how we demonstrate consideration of different view points etc
Sarah Wright
02:55:42
That sounds really useful, Fiona.
Fiona Simmons-Jones
02:58:37
Some samples of the OSPHE (Public Health specialty OSCE) are available here (including examiner pack and actor instructions) just to provide an idea: https://www.fph.org.uk/training-careers/the-diplomate-dfph-and-final-membership-examination-mfph/the-faculty-of-public-health-final-membership-examination/practice/
Paul Stronge
03:06:55
Very thought-provoking, Costas. I was just thinking how hard 'critical reflection on one's own beliefs' is for all of us, ongoing! What troubles me sometimes is that, while it's clearly crucial to ask her students to pursue this, how problematic it can get when this reflective activity is interwoven so tightly with assessment, - every student's chief preoccupation after all is understandably to pass (which is itself a very interesting term in the cultural/ decolonisation context we are discussing this morning isn't it?!) ! Don't have any 'answers' to this dilemma but I think the students I teach anyway need to be provided with more spaces where they can reflect with no assessment implications... apologies for delayed comment, btw, my mind works slowly when the issues are so thorny!
Jeni Harden
03:07:56
No surprise to hear students saying women are less qualified but v interesting to see the research evidence
Arwa - Sudan - Arwa Babiker
03:10:49
@Paul very thought provoking comment, I too was thinking of the implications of the assessment on students' attitude during
Arwa - Sudan - Arwa Babiker
03:11:37
@Mariam very interesting to see this done in a middle eastern country given the complex cultural background students have
Arwa - Sudan - Arwa Babiker
03:13:22
we have a similar background here in Sudan
Mariam Alwerdani
03:13:39
mariam.mostafat@gmail.com