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BeSST Conference Main room (Room 1) - Shared screen with speaker view
Jean Potter
03:35:41
thank you Suhad
Alice Hoon
03:35:52
Thank you, interesting talk.
Mustafa Abdalla
03:36:03
Thanks Suhad :-)
Tracey Collett (she/her)
03:36:17
Thank you Suhad - that was so interesting - looking forward to hearing more.
Suhad Daher-Nashif
03:36:49
Thank you very much!
Jeni Harden
03:36:50
Thanks Suhad - so interesting. It would be great to get you to do a longer talk so you could go into the new curriculum in more detail. Maybe you could do a blog or a show and tell for us?
Emma Wilson
03:36:58
Thank you - I really enjoyed your talk!
Suhad Daher-Nashif
03:40:25
Sure! Will be very glad to present it in it's detailed version in additional venue.
Kathy Kendall
03:40:46
I’m so sorry to have had to stop your talk, Suhad. It was so engaging and important but I was worried about ensuring we stick to the schedule. I love Jeni’s idea to write a blog or a show and tell.
Anna Jones
03:43:10
Your point about psychology only related to mental health is really interesting - what do you think could be the negative impacts of this approach on medical education?
Tracey Collett (she/her)
03:43:34
good point
Lauren
03:43:35
Very interesting Penny! Do we know who wrote these outcomes? I think BeSST psychologists had input into earlier versions of tomorrow's doctors.
Tracey Collett (she/her)
03:43:37
re gmc
Theresa Martin
03:46:23
the GMC is currently asking for review of good medical practice. they are asking for review from "doctors across all specialties and stages"
Emma Wilson
03:46:29
Also biased towards psych having only a role in the behaviour change of unwell individuals rather than (healthy) population-based (preventative) behaviour change…
Tracey Collett (she/her)
03:46:31
yes - normal human behaviour is or was also in the sociology ones - !!!!
GACairns
03:46:36
Does anyone else find it disappointing that the psychology outcomes are very focused on knowledge-based outcomes? Skills and PVB links are sometimes tenuous Georgina
Theresa Martin
03:46:53
a full consultation is due to occur next year.
Suhad Daher-Nashif
03:46:57
Thank you Kathy! I totally understand.
Emma Wilson
03:47:12
ha, very good point Evie!
Jeni Harden
03:47:24
Suggestion - we (on behalf of BeSST) will approach the GMC and see if we can initiate a discussion about consulting the BeSST community of practice about the Outcomes for Graduates
Charlotte O'Callaghan
03:48:21
I think that would be very helpful, thank you, Jeni.
Noleen McCorry
03:48:34
yes- that would be useful (I hope)
Tracey Collett (she/her)
03:48:36
yes we MUST
Arwa - Sudan - Arwa Babiker
03:48:37
definetly agree!
Katy Jones (UoN)
03:48:42
Yes please! :)
Theresa Martin
03:48:55
but the initial review they are only asking doctors. insider/outsider anyone?
GACairns
03:48:59
awareness of bias and its impact is the focus of 2j (PVB)
Tracey Collett (she/her)
03:49:16
Hisotrically it has only been through working with agencies at the policy level - have SBS been included
Kathy Kendall
03:51:31
Fabulous to see this student-staff partnership!
Jeni Harden
03:52:17
Thanks for joining us today. Lots of ways to get involved!Visit the website www.besst.infoJoin the mailing list to find out about:• Tea time chats• Write a blog• ‘Show and Tell’• Projects• Future conferences
Tracey Collett (she/her)
03:56:46
YES I do this now - the ecosystems model overlays nicely with the biopsychosocial model in introductory soci lectures. Thanks for these tips
Jennifer Watermeyer
04:01:57
Thanks for some great ideas in this presentation. It’s so crucial to teach students to consider patients/communities and care provision in terms of contextual issues. I never thought of addressing climate change with students!
Anna Jones
04:02:24
We’ve also included this in a new strand of teaching on Inequalities and Inclusion health as fits well with this. We have incorporated this within teaching on QI too.
Survjit Cheeta
04:02:26
really enjoyed your talk michelle
Tracey Collett (she/her)
04:02:46
sudent staff partnership - excellent
Survjit Cheeta
04:03:04
michelle how diverse is your student population?
Survjit Cheeta
04:03:21
ethnically, social class?
Survjit Cheeta
04:04:54
thank you
Tracey Collett (she/her)
04:05:06
thank you so much
Survjit Cheeta
04:14:26
really enjoyed your talk
Survjit Cheeta
04:14:58
maybe people forget that just because you have great a levels doesn't mean you cannot still benefit from academic writing and academic literacy support
Tracey Collett (she/her)
04:15:58
This is so important - we find here that academic literacy is of fundamental importance - we have recently redesigned our SSU programme so that that 'transferable skills' are highlighted as the main learning outcone (ie ac literacy', foregrounding Ac literacy rather than subject has made a major difference - our stduents are much more tuned into the process of critical thinking
Survjit Cheeta
04:18:23
these could be included in ILO's
Survjit Cheeta
04:18:30
so enjoyed thank you
Tracey Collett (she/her)
04:18:56
thank you everyone
Kathy Kendall
04:19:40
It was so great seeing and hearing everyone her today - it all strengthens our community of practices!
Survjit Cheeta
04:20:10
it would be really good to hear from the GMC about how they decide LO for BeSST - may something you could possibly organise????
Tracey Collett (she/her)
04:20:40
Yes we will take this forward, we will keep posted via the mailing list and website
Survjit Cheeta
04:21:18
so we join online
Survjit Cheeta
04:21:22
i am not a member
Mariam Alwerdani
04:21:54
if you gonna develop short introductory course in social science for med students, what are the most important topics to be discussed?
Kathy Kendall
04:22:01
To join go to the BeSST website: https://www.besst.info
Mariam Alwerdani
04:22:05
what do you think ?
Jennifer Watermeyer
04:22:11
Thanks for a lovely conference. Great to come across this group and your work!
Mariam Alwerdani
04:22:18
ok >>great
Lauren
04:22:21
Thanks for organising such a great conference and to all the speakers for really thought provoking presentations.